{"id":12954,"date":"2018-02-14T20:23:20","date_gmt":"2018-02-15T03:23:20","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/sixsuitcasetravel.com\/blog\/?p=12954"},"modified":"2022-03-06T17:11:38","modified_gmt":"2022-03-07T00:11:38","slug":"planning-big-family-european-expedition-road-trip-and-cruise","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/sixsuitcasetravel.com\/blog\/planning-big-family-european-expedition-road-trip-and-cruise\/","title":{"rendered":"Planning a Big Family European Expedition &#8211; Road Trip and Cruise"},"content":{"rendered":"<p><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\" wp-image-13012 alignnone\" src=\"https:\/\/sixsuitcasetravel.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2018\/02\/big-family-european-expedition-5-kids-9countries.jpg\" alt=\"\" width=\"367\" height=\"914\" srcset=\"https:\/\/sixsuitcasetravel.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2018\/02\/big-family-european-expedition-5-kids-9countries.jpg 600w, https:\/\/sixsuitcasetravel.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2018\/02\/big-family-european-expedition-5-kids-9countries-120x300.jpg 120w, https:\/\/sixsuitcasetravel.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2018\/02\/big-family-european-expedition-5-kids-9countries-411x1024.jpg 411w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 367px) 100vw, 367px\" \/><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-size: 14pt;\">My husband and I have always enjoyed traveling.\u00a0 The anticipation, the adventure itself, and then the memories made that we can carry with us for the rest of our lives.\u00a0 We traveled before kids and then continued as we grew our family.\u00a0 We have had to readjust as we added more to our big family \u2013 but we\u2019ve always made travel a priority.\u00a0 <\/span><\/p>\n<p><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"wp-image-13013 alignnone\" src=\"https:\/\/sixsuitcasetravel.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2018\/02\/familypic.jpg\" alt=\"\" width=\"560\" height=\"448\" srcset=\"https:\/\/sixsuitcasetravel.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2018\/02\/familypic.jpg 1430w, https:\/\/sixsuitcasetravel.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2018\/02\/familypic-300x240.jpg 300w, https:\/\/sixsuitcasetravel.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2018\/02\/familypic-768x614.jpg 768w, https:\/\/sixsuitcasetravel.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2018\/02\/familypic-1024x819.jpg 1024w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 560px) 100vw, 560px\" \/><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-size: 14pt;\">Visiting family, camping, and exploring the outdoors were \u00a0favorites when the kids were little.\u00a0 In the past few years, we\u2019ve been blessed to be able to take longer and more exciting adventures.\u00a0 After our big trip across the US, we started looking at a vacation across Europe \u2013 the next \u201ceasiest\u201d continent for exploration with a large family, in our opinion.<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-size: 14pt;\"><a href=\"https:\/\/sixsuitcasetravel.com\/blog\/2014\/11\/03\/ultimate-road-trip-2014-planning\/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\">Our US road trip logged over 12,000 miles<\/a> and provided 2 months of togetherness&#8230;.and it was an incomparable learning experience and an amazing adventure.\u00a0 So many memories made that we thought we should give it another try \u2013 but this time about 6,000 kilometers and just over one month of time together- on a totally different continent.\u00a0 <\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-size: 14pt;\">This time we\u2019ve got all togetherness and mileage plus international flights, passports, language barriers, new and different foods, and\u00a0 money exchanges.\u00a0 We were traveling by plane, van and ship \u2013 to and in Europe to drive our way through some of the most amazing history, culture, and scenery in the world.<\/span><\/p>\n<h3><span style=\"font-size: 14pt;\">AIRFARE<\/span><\/h3>\n<p><span style=\"font-size: 14pt;\">So we started planning \u2013 which grew our anticipation and excitement!\u00a0 We quickly discovered that the airfare would be a large part of the budget.\u00a0 We\u2019ve not flown with the kids since 2000, when we only had one.\u00a0\u00a0 <\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-size: 14pt;\">Flying while easy, quick and convenient has not been an option for us since having multiple kids as the total airfare with a rental car was usually comparable to what we could use to fund an entire vacation if we drove.\u00a0 This time we HAD to fly as driving to Europe obviously isn\u2019t an option.\u00a0\u00a0 We found that flying into and out of major airports was going to save us quite a bit of money and that renting a van to the airport and then another for the drive home was going to be more affordable than driving our car and parking for a month, and that surprisingly, a side trip to Iceland would be the same price as a direct flight.\u00a0 <\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-size: 14pt;\">Icelandair is currently promoting a stopover option for their travelers.\u00a0 For the same price as a ticket on any of the other major airlines (cheaper than some of them, actually), we were able to fly to Iceland, and layover for up to 7 days before continuing to mainland Europe.\u00a0 It was an option of which we felt we had to take advantage.<\/span><\/p>\n<h3><span style=\"font-size: 14pt;\">GROUND TRANSPORTATION<\/span><\/h3>\n<p><span style=\"font-size: 14pt;\">We also needed to plan transportation while in Europe.\u00a0 Our options seemed to be narrowed to either the Eurail train system, cheap European flights, or driving ourselves.\u00a0 We researched each option endlessly as the trains in Europe are well known for affordability, reliability and convenience and some air options (for example Ryan Air) are known for the ridiculously low cost to fly between major destinations.\u00a0 <\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-size: 14pt;\">The deciding factor for driving was the ease and accessibility that came with our own vehicle.\u00a0 Both the Eurail and a van costed out similarly but with our own vehicle we could set our own schedule, and visit little stops, shops, and sightseeing opportunities along the way.<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-size: 14pt;\">Renting a large van for a large family did come with its own complications including researching vans available to large families, insurance, border regulations, manual transmissions, and parking.\u00a0 First issue we researched was lease vs rental.\u00a0 For long term (21+ days) car rental in Europe, most websites say it is cheaper to lease, but we found it was much cheaper to rent (even including the added\u00a0 insurance) .\u00a0 <\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-size: 14pt;\">Leasing was a good option as insurance (CDW \u2013 collision damage waiver or LDW \u2013 loss damage waiver) was included.\u00a0 This option probably works for most people traveling to Europe for that long \u2013 but for our big family, it was much more expensive than renting.\u00a0 For example:<\/span><\/p>\n<ul>\n<li><span style=\"font-size: 14pt;\">Leasing a very small 7 person vehicle: $2200\/month<\/span><\/li>\n<li><span style=\"font-size: 14pt;\">Leasing a large 9 person vehicle: $4200\/month<\/span><\/li>\n<li><span style=\"font-size: 14pt;\">Renting a very small 7 person vehicle: $1300\/month<\/span><\/li>\n<li><span style=\"font-size: 14pt;\">Renting a 9 person vehicle: $1800\/month (Hertz-Our rental)<\/span><\/li>\n<\/ul>\n<p><span style=\"font-size: 14pt;\">Since we were renting, we also needed to research insurance.\u00a0 In Europe neither CDW nor LDW are included in your rental fee.\u00a0 This is the insurance that pays for the rental car in case of damage\/theft\/etc.\u00a0 Insurance that covers personal injury for people in the car and injury or people\/objects outside of the car is included.\u00a0 CDW\/LDW insurance is offered by the rental car companies, but it is very expensive (for our vehicle insurance available through the agency included $1278 \u00a0with an additional $668 for theft protection).\u00a0 This insurance may be covered by a credit cards as long as you use the card to rent the vehicle, however, this did not apply for 9 passenger vehicles.\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0 <\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-size: 14pt;\">Insurance can also be purchased by online insurance companies.\u00a0 The down side to getting your own insurance outside of the car rental company (either by credit card or online agency) is that you will be responsible for the entire repair\/replacement costs until your credit company or policy pays (up to $40K in some cases).\u00a0 We used <a href=\"http:\/\/insuremyrentalcar.com\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\">insuremyrentalcar.com<\/a> and paid $242 for a yearly policy (Year was the same as 5 weeks).\u00a0 <\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-size: 14pt;\">Our ground transportation (rental, insurance plus gas allowance was 3100$ for the month (averaging out at $100 per day or just about 15$ per day per person allowing us access to whatever and wherever we chose to go) vs 7 people continuous\u00a0 Eurail pass for a month $4607 or 10 days travel for $3437 (neither which would have included our time in Iceland) and both restricting our travel times and destinations.<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-size: 14pt;\">As we were traveling to multiple countries, we also needed to be sure that our rental was able to be driven across the borders both with the agency and the insurance company.\u00a0 For example, some brands of vehicles were not allowed across certain borders.\u00a0 Some were not allowed to be returned in other countries.\u00a0 <\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-size: 14pt;\">We also learned about tolls required for driving in some countries \u2013 which included <a href=\"http:\/\/www.dalnicni-znamky.com\/en\/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\">Vignettes (stickers)<\/a> in some and tolls in others.<br \/>\n<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-size: 14pt;\">Most rental cars\/vans are manual transmission.\u00a0 The new rental cars in Europe are smart cars and will let you know things like when you are too tired and should take a break, or when you are going outside of the lines, or over speed limits.<\/span><\/p>\n<h3><span style=\"font-size: 14pt;\">DESTINATIONS<\/span><\/h3>\n<p><span style=\"font-size: 14pt;\">When planning, we were also able to speak with friends and family regarding opinions and recommendations.\u00a0 Scott and I had not been to Europe since 1999 -the year before we started our family.\u00a0 So we hadn\u2019t been for almost 20 years and we had never been with kids.\u00a0 Our beginning ideas ended up somewhat different from our final itinerary.\u00a0 We wanted to visit everywhere &#8211;\u00a0 our lists included Barcelona, Paris, London, Rome, Berlin, Athens, Amsterdam and Istanbul and everywhere in between.\u00a0 <\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-size: 14pt;\">Of course, there was no reality in that \u2013 so we had to narrow it down to what we could manage with 7 in a month.\u00a0 Sadly, Istanbul was automatically crossed off as the state department issued warnings for American travel during the time we would be there. (<a href=\"https:\/\/travel.state.gov\/content\/travel\/en\/traveladvisories\/traveladvisories.html\/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\">Visit this government site for travel advisories.<\/a>)<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-size: 14pt;\">Friends reminded us that summer in the Mediterranean countries would be hot and very crowded, and that middle European countries (Germany, Austria, Switzerland) would be lovely at this time.\u00a0 Czech Republic was also highly recommended &#8211; both for its history and culture as well as its affordability.\u00a0\u00a0 <\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-size: 14pt;\">With these counties recommended along with the fact that we HAD to visit Paris, we sadly had to cross off Barcelona ( too far out of the way) and London (not as easily accessed with a rental as we\u2019d have liked).\u00a0 We narrowed more and added some to come up with a preliminary working itinerary including a cruise.<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-size: 14pt;\">To include an easy access to a few destinations and also a bit of relaxation, we wanted to include a cruise as part of the trip.\u00a0 We have sailed with Royal Caribbean in the past and were able to find a fantastic itinerary that allowed us to leave from Venice, Italy and visit Croatia and both Mainland Greece as well as 3 Greek Islands.\u00a0 These would have been difficult for us to include by land transportation and provided an easy and fun way to relax and enjoy several stops without the continued packing and unpacking.<\/span><\/p>\n<h3><span style=\"font-size: 14pt;\">LODGING<\/span><\/h3>\n<p><span style=\"font-size: 14pt;\">Once we had an idea for the itinerary, we began to look at lodging.\u00a0 We looked into hotels, hostels and rentals. From what we were able to research, most European hotels are not made for large families.\u00a0 Even in the big chains 2-3 to a room is standard, 4 people is rare and 7 is non-existent.\u00a0 We would have had to buy 3 rooms at most hotels.\u00a0 <\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-size: 14pt;\">We also looked into hostels and even at 30$ per night (which would be very economical for a person) \u2013 multiplying that by 7 ran us 210$ per night.\u00a0 And at that rate, depending on the location, we were sharing a communal restroom, or kitchen.\u00a0 <\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-size: 14pt;\">Rentals were highly recommended and as we researched we were able to find entire homes with fabulous views in fantastic locations for similar pricing.\u00a0 Our average rate was $260 per night (again divided by 7 that averages out to 37$ per night per person) though when planning we found one that I just couldn\u2019t resist that was much higher priced \u2013 so we rearranged and compensated that rental with 2 that were much lower.\u00a0\u00a0 <\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-size: 14pt;\">We rented homes through Airbnb in all the locations and had excellent experiences.\u00a0 A few recommendations:<\/span><\/p>\n<ol>\n<li><span style=\"font-size: 14pt;\">Look at reviews and make sure your rental has recent reviews and they are good reviews.<\/span><\/li>\n<li><span style=\"font-size: 14pt;\">Look at location closely. We stayed in one location that was less than a mile from the city by ski lift.\u00a0 We happened to be located about halfway up a mountain near the lift.\u00a0 However, the city was actually a 20 minute drive from our home by twisty and turny mountain roads.<\/span><\/li>\n<li><span style=\"font-size: 14pt;\">Think about price while including location to attractions, parking, city transportation costs, etc\u2026 We had a great apartment in Paris that was expensive, but it included parking and we could walk everywhere which eliminated transportation costs.\u00a0 Also, plan for access to grocery store locations to save money on the food budget.<\/span><\/li>\n<li><span style=\"font-size: 14pt;\">Language was sometimes an issue, but didn\u2019t have any times that we didn\u2019t work through it\u2026<\/span><\/li>\n<li><span style=\"font-size: 14pt;\">We didn\u2019t have to exchange any $$ for Air BnB\u2019s\u2026 all transactions were done online, however, we did have to pay at the time of booking (months out).<\/span><\/li>\n<\/ol>\n<p><span style=\"font-size: 14pt;\">So much planning \u2013 but so fun to build our excitement.\u00a0 We felt that we researched the fundamentals, had some exciting sightseeing planned, yet hoped for spontaneity on this adventure too.\u00a0 <\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-size: 14pt;\">We felt we were ready and we were knowledgeable.\u00a0 We had booked transportation and lodging and planned out itinerary but aside from one planned activity that needed to be reserved several days in advance (Iceland\u2019s Blue Lagoon), we had no set plans.\u00a0 <\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-size: 14pt;\">We were off to enjoy the adventure of a lifetime visiting Iceland, Germany, Czech Republic, Austria, Italy, Croatia, Greece,\u00a0 Switzerland and France.<\/span><\/p>\n<p><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"wp-image-13014 alignnone\" src=\"https:\/\/sixsuitcasetravel.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2018\/02\/big-family-europe-expedition-map.jpg\" alt=\"\" width=\"570\" height=\"335\" srcset=\"https:\/\/sixsuitcasetravel.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2018\/02\/big-family-europe-expedition-map.jpg 1633w, https:\/\/sixsuitcasetravel.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2018\/02\/big-family-europe-expedition-map-300x176.jpg 300w, https:\/\/sixsuitcasetravel.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2018\/02\/big-family-europe-expedition-map-768x451.jpg 768w, https:\/\/sixsuitcasetravel.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2018\/02\/big-family-europe-expedition-map-1024x602.jpg 1024w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 570px) 100vw, 570px\" \/><\/p>\n<p><em>Editor: I&#8217;m very excited to share Terri&#8217;s next big adventure with you all! 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